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york. john boehner's back is against the wall and president obama is holding all the cards. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >>> the clock is ticking. christmas is coming. the goose is getting fat. why are you not bringing this to the floor? >> an urgent message from nancy pelosi. but it's casual friday for speaker boehner. >> this isn't a progress report bauds there's no progress to report. >> today's news, speaker boehner and president obama will be the only two at the table to make a deal. i'll ask emanuel cleaver if boehner can get it done. >>> 33 months of private sector job growth. now is the time to start spending on jobs. david cay johnston is here. >>> the filibuster is more than an embarrassing blunder. bernie sanders explains why. >>> the right to work in michigan has ignited a fire storm with workers. we'll have the latest on rick snider's race to the bottom. >>> and breaking news from the supreme court. there will be a decision on the constitutionality of same-sex marriage. law professor jonathan terly has all the details. >> thanks for watching. john
the give and take will occur. boehner and obama have met before. the summer of 2011. they put a lot of specifics on paper. when boehner coudn g backing from his conference. >> how close is this toth i didn't see this in advance. this was reallyop b. th tn goatn.3 > dl nde. s >> there has been progress. >> right now i would say we're nowhere.3 irey ssisc. paul begala, david frum, former adviser to president george w. bush. gentlemen, nice to have you both. david, let's start with you. depending on who you listen to, it's either going great or not going well at all. they're either optimistic or completely pessimistic. which is it? >> i feel about this whole process as a basketball nonfan, i feel about basketball, which is start it 100-100 and play for five minutes to get it over with. but i think we also need to take a step back and realize just how lunatic this whole process is. what the united states does not need right now is either spending cuts or tax increases. what we should be thinking about is how to get growth. instead of the mishandling of the deal in 2011, we have to pret
obama and speaker john boehner talk on the phone tonight for the first time in a week but they ended their conversation with no break in the deadlock over how to avoid the rapidly approaching fiscal cliff. the president's secretary said the administration is absolutely 3r-7d to go over the cliff if republicans don't agree to tax rate increases. speaker boehner says it is now up to the president to spell out a plan that will pass. the president told business leaders that ending fights over extending the country's debt ceiling have to be a part of this deal. now part of our deal here at 9news is having gary nurenberg follow these fiscal cliff developments. he is here with tonight's wrap- up. >> reporter: an knit tax you are right, the president and the speaker got on the phone but as if to signal the lack of progress the house got out of town. the republican controlled house left town wednesday saying it has nothing to do. >> we need a response from the white house. we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. >> reporter: the president's treasury secretary said there's no room for
for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. >>> obama to boehner, get serious. let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. let me start tonight with this. the republicans have their plan, and it's great news for the rich. speaker john boehner just put it out. those at the top, the 2%, are safe. your bush tax cuts are going to keep on giving. one problem, mr. boehner, you lost. that was your position before the election, and you lost. mitt romney campaigned on keeping the tax cuts for the wealthy, and he lost. and he promised to do what john boehner is doing right now, and he lost. how about some respect for the electorate? how about seeing what the 2012 presidential debate was about? obama championed tax fairness and won. republicans championed protecting that 2%, ignoring the 47% he talked about, and they lost. today boehner said he's willing to raise revenues by the same amount he agreed to back in august of 2011, the last time they had this fight. again, he's willing to act like the election never happened. no wonder. again, he lost. j
that the staffs of president obama and house speaker boehner resumed discussions as the two principles remain far from face-to-face negotiation apparently. fox news chief white house correspondent ed henry has the latest. >> pulling on the heart strings like he's on the campaign trail, president obama visited a middle class family in virginia. >> a couple thousands dollars means a couple months rent for this family. >> again, trying to frame the battle over the miscall cliff as being all about taxes with no mention of spending cuts. >> i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rates from going up for folks at the top 2%, but e remain optimistic we can get something done that are good for families like this one, and that's good for the american economy. >> republicans believe the reason the president is going light on spending cuts while demanding the budget deal include another increase in the nation's debt ceiling is clear. >> this is not about getting a handle on deficits or debt for him. it's about spending even more than he has. >> white house aids reject the republican
at everybeatmatters.org. lou: the staffs of both president obama and house speaker boehner are talking, but there is still no word of progress on the so-called fiscal cliff or the president's ultimatum. silence indicate a deal in the works or something too ugly for them to contemplate?@ we'll have the latest for you from the white house. white house correspondent ed henry here in just moments, but, first, the money line in hoping washington might get a deal done driving a modestly bullish mood on wall street at the end of the session. investors cheering news in a decline in jobless claims, and household wealth in the country grew by $1.7 trillion, to the highest level in five years, talk about a positive indicator for consumer purchasing. the dow jones industrial up 40 points, the s&p up five, and nasdaq rose 15.5 points. volume? a billion shares lighter than yesterday, but above the average of 3.1 billion trading on the board today. apple rebounded from yesterday's worst date performance in four years, a gain of $8.45 today with the ceo saying apple will move imac computer production
and counting until the nation falls off the fiscal cliff. president obama and house speaker boehner are going on with negotiations. >> we had another week of massive trash-talking, are we closer or further away from getting a deal? >> they're not really talking right now. that's what's most incredible. there were speeches all week long. lot of ads on television. less than an hour of negotiations. one-hour phone call between to president obama and house speaker boehner. democrats say they're not going to move until the republicans say they're going to be for higher tax rates on the wealthy. and spending cuts. republicans aren't going to come forward until the democrats say more about how they want to cut spending. right now, we're stuck. now, it could be the well that is getting poisoned right now, as positions are going to harden with all of these negotiations they sometimes with most fire before they break. the debt limit, president obama said that he's not going to negotiate at all over the debt limit. i don't know how you can get that resolved by december 31st. >> could the republicans giv
do you think? >> yes. you know, john boehner has president obama's phone number and he has used it and the president has answered the call unlike the night when president obama called john boehner on election day and john boehner didn't answer his call. i think that you have to have both parties willing to engage with each other and talk to each other. looking back at the 1980s, for example, when ronald reagan was president and tip o'neill was speaker of the house, they didn't agree but they sit down and talk and negotiate and compromise and today's republican party so hijacked by the right wing they're incapable of agreement. >> let's put aside the right wing here. we know that speaker boehner purged some of those seen as not being team players within his own party and we'll discuss the fact he's taken a hit for that. beyond the right wing or whatever you have numbers. you have exit polling. you have pew research poll that shows where the american people stand. if all of the people are there to represent us, meaning the people who are watching right now and the panel included h
deadly gas. how that changes president obama's stance on a possible intervention. john boehner offered up his own plan to avoid the fiscal cliff today. does it add up? and the u.s. ambassador to the united nations comes under fire again. this time, it's over ra wwanda. let's go "outfront." evening, welcome, everybody. i'm soledad o'brien. breaking news. president obama puts the syrian president bashar al assad on notice. the president is reacting to new notice that the regime is mixing with chemicals to make deadly gas. and today, i want to make it absolutely clear to assad and those under his command, the world is watching. the use of chemical weapons is an would be totally unacceptable. and if you make the tragic mistake of using these weapons, there will be consequences and you will be held accountable. >> assad is on the edge of president obama's so-called red line against syria. the president said the summer that syria's use or movement of chemical weapons could mean u.s. intervention, so "outfront" tonight, barbara starr. how exactly clear is the evidence in fact they are now moving
'm using them for the rest of the show. thank you, greg. >>> boehner ripped into president obama, speaker boehner calling the white house fiscal plan a joke. senator ron johnson is on the budget committee. he joins us. good evening, sir. >> greta, how you doing? >> greta: very well, and calling the plan a joke, i guess he is not going to beat around the bush for us. >> unfortunately, greta, president obama pretty well holds all the cards in this negotiation. if he wants to have tax increases or tax rates go up, i don't see how republicans can stop him, you know, because everybody's taxes are going to increase if congress does nothing, and president obama is the only person that can sign a bill into law and quite honestly, senator harry reid is the only person in the senate that can pass a bill in the senate as well. it sounds like people like howard dean want everybody's taxes to go up. maybe we should feel fortunate that president obama only wants the top two% to g two percent t. >> greta: do you anticipate republicans will vote for a rate increase if this should come to a vote? >> i don
john boehner wants to speak only to president obama out of public view. though we've just learned that boehner is holding a news conference at 11:00 this morning eastern time. the fight, though, still very public. vice president joe biden is meeting with a middle class family. and yesterday president obama met with a virginia family. tax hikes for the rich are nonnegotiable. >> just to be clear, i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up for folks at the top 2%. but i do remain optimistic that we can get something done that is for families like this one. >> joining me now is barry, msnbc political contributor and editor for grio. hello, guys. >> perry, i'm wondering if these new unemployment numbers add to the president's leverage? >> i think they do. the big thing is the election. but the jobs numbers suggest that the economy is doing well and it cuts against the republican argument that raising taxes on the rich with would hurt the economy and the economy is fragile. the numbers though that the economy is not fragile and that would improve
, they used to throw everybody out of the room, and get it done. what worries me about the boehner/obama relationship, it seems like it's almost nonexistent. they can't even shake hands at a party, for goodness sake. >> and in many ways, i blame the republicans for not coming up with a real deal, not recognizing what the voters did. at the same time, i think obama has been very, very poor at applying the personal charm and chemistry that the president can. dragging people off to camp david. and we don't know whether or not that would work. but he hasn't tried it. and when a government budget is at stake -- >> larry, they did feel offended by president obama's last offer. they felt it was so outrageous. >> it was outrageous. it was double what they saw last year. it had spending increases, rather than spending cuts. and it wanted to have congress lose its role, in term terms of increasing the debt ceiling. none of that's probably going to happen. and i think to nick's point, it's a good point. if you go back and look. i worked for reagan years ago. reagan and tip o'neill would sit and wor
? even though president obama and john boehner chatted on the phone, there's still no deal. republicans are not amused. >> incredibly, many top democrats, including the president, seem perfectly happy. perfectly happy to go off the cliff. that's why the president has been more interested in campaign rallies than actually negotiating a deal. >> many americans don't have much hope the two side also come up with a deal. they've moved on already to plan b. the retired teacher in utah has put off plans to get a new car. brian chandler, data manager in atlanta is delaying buying a house, despite needing space for his second child due any day now. several families told us they're shrinking the gift pile beneath the christmas tree this year. how about you? are you prepared if the nation goes off the fiscal cliff? facebook.com/carolcnn. facebook.com/carolc facebook.com/carolcnn. your responses later this hour. >>> what's it like living high above the earth? how do you celebrate the holidays? i'll ask astronaut kevin ford. he will join me, live, from the international space station. ♪ [ male an
and threatening jobs, the whitehouse has wasted another week. >> speaker boehner and president obama spoke only once this scombeek boehner called the talk unproductive. boehner did not say e, he did not repeat his demand to keep tax cuts for the wealthy in place. the president insists taxing should go up on the top 2% of income earners. nancy pelosi responded to criticism that democrats are to blame for the stale meat. >> boehner says that democrats are slow walking this had but this is the same leader who had the house in session barely a full day of this week. >> if a deal is not reached by the end of this year, automatic tax increases and spending cuts go into effect. >> transportation officials today called for the use of data recorders to help improve drive driver safet . these would record vehicle speed, air bag deployment and whether seatbelts were buckled. they say installing those recorders would help gather valuable information. the agency would like to them see them installed in 2014. >> coming up in two minutes we'll have an update on that fatal crash and the traffic jam it's c
fie der -- the terrifying details right ahead. >> president obama and john boehner talk by phone about the fiscal cliff rchl the two kids any closer to a deal. >> coming up, fema gives the cold shoulder to people in crisfield still suffering after hurricane sandy. that story as eyewitness news continues. >> sharon gibala here with wjz traffic control. if you're about to head out now is the time we usually start seeing delays on the road. right now over the tim. >> in for marty bass in the first warning weather center. the cold temperatures are settling in. your complete first warning weather forecast coming up. >> holiday movies are poping up all over tv. actor an dri mccarthy tells us about his. stay tuned the . >>> it is 6:30. it's a much colder morning than it's been any morning this week. that's live look at the southwest corner of the city. sharon will take care of the other roads and it's tim williams in for bernadette woods who is in for marty bass who is over at first warning weather. >> that gets us there. sure does. today our temperatures are on the cold side. we're looking a
with the fiscal cliff. this deal will only get done by president obama and john boehner making a deal. they came close in the summer of 2011. the parties are so polarized and partisans polarized this is a problem. >> i keep saying we need a presidential historian or hostage negotiator. somebody could say we've been at stalemates before, gotten over it, shut down the government in '96. tip o'neill and ronald reagan managed to solve problems and get along. listen to what john mccain said about what we need here. >> it's time now to sit across the table from one another, rather than -- in the way they did with ronald reagan and the way you get things done in washington. >> the way they did with ronald reagan and get things done in washington. you sit together and figure it out. they were at a holiday party they didn't talk to each other. they're issuing sort of statements and rebuttals and saying i'm not going to budge. >> negotiation by press release. this is not how things get done in washington and part of the problem of the growing incivility in washington. people don't work together the way th
.c., the standoff continues. house speaker john boehner says he's still waiting for president obama to make his next counteroffer to the republican plan he rejected. >> i'm going need a response from the white house. we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. >> the president and boehner spoke on the phone wednesday, but republicans want more. >> we want to sit down with the president. we want to talk specifics. >> whether the talks happen on the phone or in person, here on capitol hill or at the white house, there will be no deal without a compromise on taxes, something that does not appear likely any time soon. >> an obsession to raise taxes is not going to solve the problem. >> treasury secretary timothy geithner said the white house is absolutely willing to go over the fiscal cliff if the gop doesn't agree to raise taxes on the top 2% of earners. while a handful of republicans seems willing to concede that point, the party seemed unchangeable. >> speaker boehner took a position, i think the day after the campaign, that said we're willing to bring in revenue, but we're not willing to increas
into a civil war. did president obama disspeaker john boehner in a comment today. >> on the conservative side of the republican party today. with senator demint speaking on the idea that $800 billion of tax increases were offered. but he got the backing of mitch mcconnel. take a listen to what he had to say. >> i think it sis important tha the house leadership is trying to mov move it forward. i had hoped that we would be accomplishing more in the real talks. but i can tell you, there is nothing going on privately that is not going on publicly. even as he has to deal with this rebellion. he has to deal with democrats and harry reid's comments today give you a sense of where they are coming from. >> they have to come up with specific revenue. and they refuse to do that. it is a simple question of arithmetic. you can't get from here to there unless you raise the rates. so as you know in washington, a rebellion in the ranks like this could be a problem. but in the spohort-term, if it remains constrained. it could be a good negotiating term. he could say i have offered everything that i have and
on chiapitol hill which is why so many have gone home. we know that president obama and john boehner spoke by phone. republican sources telling us they had a conversation yesterday. we don't have a readout on what that was about. we don't know that if any meetings have been scheduled. but any small sign of progress is welcome here on capitol hill. now with so many lawmakers headed home and likely to face the ire of their constituents, we saw one protester in baltimore yesterday over social security. there are a few left. today there's a joint economic committee hearing. they're going to hear from a top economist not only about the jobs numbers coming out tomorrow but also about what can be done to avoid this issue at the end of the year. >> tracie potts for us in washington. thank you. >>> last night on the ed show, steny hoyer explains why he thinks the debt ceiling vote should be taken off the table. >> the debt ceiling is a phone y vote, frankly. and from time to time democrats have made it an item that they demagogue down and the republicans have demagogued on it, as well. the debt lim
'll tell you why, straight ahead. >>> also ahead on "starting point," president obama and speaker boehner talk on the phone about the fiscal cliff. but will they be meeting face to face and will they get anything done before it's too late? up next, oregon senator jeff merkley. he's a member of the budget committee. >>> and kobe bryant joins an elite club with basketball greats like michael jordan and kareem abdul-jabbar. his impressive feat, we'll tell you all about it. >> the greatest player in the history of the los angeles lakers. wow! that's a savings of over 29 bucks! twenty-nine bucks!!?? and they're powered by friendship. see for yourself if you could save on the brands you want. walmart. starts with ground beef, unions, and peppers baked in a ketchup glaze with savory gravy and mashed russet potatoes. what makes stouffer's meatloaf best of all? that moment you enjoy it at home. stouffer's. let's fix dinner. we believe the more you know, the better you trade. so we have ongoing webinars and interactive learning, plus, in-branch seminars at over 500 locations, where our dedicated su
. >> reporter: aides to president obama and speaker boehner met yesterday afternoon. but that meeting ended with no discernible signs of progress. rob and paula? >> thanks, tahman. >>> once the numbers are all tallied, they're going to show that the 2012 presidential election was the most expensive in history. campaign finance statements put the total cost at well above $2 billion. virtually split down the middle between president obama and mitt romney. that includes nearly $86 million raised by romney during the election's final weeks. >>> and someone who has apparently run his last senate campaign is conservative republican jim demint. he announced yesterday he is leaving the senate on january 1st in order to leave a conse e conservative thinktank. whoever is chosen to lead the south carolina governor, a special election in 2014 to finish out his term. >>> a new twist in the very bizarre case of software pioneer john mcafee. the former fugitive is waking up in a detention cell in guatemala this morning, one day after being hospitalized. mcafee told abc news he suffered chest pains and th
with 25 days to go until the year end fiscal cliff deadline for the first time in days president obama and speaker boehner spoke on the phone yesterday. both men agreeing not to publicly characterize how the conversation went. but the stalemate in negotiations entered bold new territory yesterday with treasury secretary tim geithner suggesting the white house is ready to go off the cliff if republicans refuse to raise taxes on the top 2%. >> if republicans do not agree to that, is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. again, there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest members. only 2%. the size of the problem in some sense is so large it can't be solved without rates going up. again, there is broad recognition of that reality now. >> one fallback option, republicans are reportedly considering to accept tax cuts for the middle class, allow rates to go up to the wealthiest and then start the fight all over again during debt limit talks early next year. yesterday at a business roundtable of
. president obama and speaker boehner. thank you. nobody else will be in the room. with 24 days before a year-end deadline, "the new york times" says boehner made the request to clear the negotiation room going forward, leaving it up to himself and the president to reach a deal to avoid automatic tax hikes and deep spending cuts. and while the two men may be negotiating privately, yesterday the president took his mess dwrooj the public, visiting a local virginia family as a part of his social media campaign. while sitting around the kitchen table, he told the family he felt optimistic. >> the message that i think we all want to send to members of congress is this is a solvable problem. the senate has already passed a bill that would make sure the middle class taxes do not go up next year by a single dime. just to be clear, i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up for folks at the top 2%, but i do remain optimistic that we can get something done that is good for families like this one and that is good for the american economy. >> an added wrinkle to th
year. at this point, the negotiations are now down to president obama and john boehner. >> we mentioned superstore senate. why should that storm play a big role in the jobs report? >> we hear about new york and new jersey being impacted. 24 states were impacted. retailers closed and other businesses closed. if there was no super storm sandy, the economy could have added 200,000 jobs. instead we are looking at at about 100,000 jobs. >> 5:07. 33 degrees at the airport. and get some ceremonies to remember the anniversary of the attack on pearl harbor. >> attempting to hand over classified information. what he tried to leak. >> this is exit 17 at padonia road. volume is still light. weather and traffic when we come weather and traffic when we come back ♪ ♪ no two people have the same financial goals. pnc works with you to understand yours and help plan for your retirement. visit a branch or call now for your personal retirement review. >> good morning. 5:10. friday morning. closer to freezing when you get away from the city this morning. we do not have rain in the baltimore area. there
cliff. president obama and john boehner did speak on the issue today, but the results of that conversation not public. the white house has now asked federal agencies to plan for more than $100 billion in cuts. that's what happens if the issue is not resolved by december 31st. >> we've got to cut spending and i believe it's appropriate to put revenues on the table. >> let's allow higher rates to go up for the top 2%. that includes all of you, yes? >> president obama speaking to business leaders when he made that comment today at the white house. insists he will veto any bill that does not include tax increases on wealthier americans. >>> coming up an online shopping horror story, a maryland woman's story may convince you to read the fine print. >> last night we were around 60 degrees most places at this hour. tonight we're some 20 degrees colder than that. i'll let you know how low it gets overnight and if we'll see more warm air on the horizon, but get ready for a chilly overnight. the rest of the forecast is coming up on the news edge at 11:00. >> this is fox 5 news e
on tax hikes for the wealthy, this following president obama and speaker boehner's first phone call in days with both sides staying mum on the details. this afternoon president obama's fiscal photo-op off the day takes him to the suburban home of a middle class families in virginia, one of the thousands who responded to the
a socialist. he is willing to make a deal with boehner. the american people spoke wednesday reelected obama. they want the tax cut for the wealthy to expire. we need to leave what you call entitlement programs alone. what we need to be talking about is boehner it needs to be more flexible about letting those tax cuts expire and it is not spending that is a problem. it is paying for what you spend that is a problem. two wars are unpaid for. guest: it is not my intent to be disrespectful of the president. i have tremendous respect for the president. the president has socialist leanings -- i think that's fair to say. i'm glad you called. think about the cuts in spending, all the things the president and boehner are talking about. there would probably be $560 billion compared to a $2.7 tr illion deficit is like spitting in the ocean. we have to do something radical. entitlements must be on the table. everybody has to sacrifice in this bill. america must take some drastic measures to at least get us on a path to do something to recovery. host: markkas from washington, good morning -- marcus. cal
between speaker john boehner and president obama today. with just 25 days to go, let's keep tabs on where we stand. reports of a conservative backlash against speaker boehner simply not true. he has the solid support of his leadership and the rank and file. but there is concern among some in the gop that they are at risk of becoming the party for rich people while president obama and democrats stake their claim on the middle class. and my tax rate flexibility with higher -- here's what the president said earlier today. >> i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevent prevents the top rate from going up for folks at the top 2%. but i do remain optimistic that we can get something done that is good for families like this one and that is good for the american economy. >> we look back republican senator rand paul from the state of kentucky. senator paul, welcome, as always. i want to ask you about the fiscal cliff, the state of play. there's revenues on the table. there's tax rate increases on the table. i don't know if there's spending on the table. what's your thinking prigt now? >
and obama -- boehner has requested private negotiations with obama. i don't know what -- i am not sure why that's important at the that you can on the phone privately. they are looking for a way out they have signaled some private openness if they could kick it up to 37% instead of 39% if they get some entitlement savings they could sell. >> the president would get 39-6 for the upper income folks with doing nothing and no entitlement cuts by doing nothing? >> right. >> it would be a deal. you would guess the president would want some sort of package and wouldn't want to go over the cliff. it would be politically and substantively. this is what republican aids say. he has the chance to do something big. if he come our way i am not negotiating this. >> you need to get something in order to do something. we are getting ahead of ourselves. this is the conversation that we have to have. this is the conversation that's the going on all over washington today or at least should be except congress went home. >> we are talking about it. >> exactly. who needs congress.
are now in the had hands of two men, president obama and house speaker eer jo boehner. bill plante is at the white house. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. and good morning in the west. the president has stepped up his rhetoric, warning failure to fix the fiscal crisis could sour the christmas season. as another day passed without any real progress, president obama ventured out to push his claim that the middle class will suffer. ♪ you better watch out you better not cry ♪ >> at the national christmas tree lighting, president obama joined the holiday mood. but earlier, visiting a middle class virginia family, he threatened that congress could ruin the christmas season. if it doesn't act, the administration says, middle class tax bills will increase by $2,000. >> we're in the midst of the christmas season. i think the american people are counting on this getting solved. the closer it gets to the brink, the more stress there is going to be. >> reporter: what may raise the stress level even further is the promise that both the president and treasury secretary geithner has m
obama and john boehner, the two sides appear to be no closer to a compromise. are republicans working on the scenes on a plan b? wall street journal columnist, dan henninger and kim strassel. you have bean working the phones, is there something going on between speaker boehner and the president? >> no, i think that they are nowhere and it's because the president is refusing to budge at all on the top toks ratestopx rates and we'll go off the cliff if the republicans don't acreed to that demand. so we're still at a stand still. >> paul: kim, why is the president so insistent on increasing tax rates? boehner has already put on the table a comparable amount of money to be gained from putting a cap on deductions, about 800 billion over ten years, so such a-- >> look, paul, two reasons. first is ideological. his partisans, his liberal base believe this is somehow a symbol of winning the tax fight and you can only do that by raising the rates on the wealthy in the country and they're insistent on that. the other thing the president is interested in, he wants a double deal and wants to raise
. you look at the principals in here, john boehner, president obama, timothy gardner, they do not sound like they are getting together anytime soon. adam: you think we will go over the cliff? >> i think we are very close to doing it. if they don't come up with an agreement, i do not see any advantage of being any longer then you are right now. i have a double sure production to protect me on the way down. i am protected. adam: what kind of things should an investor be looking for that we do have a deal? >> you know, that is really hard to say. what i would like to hear is less out of boehner and less out of obama. if i hear that there has been a call made to representative boehner to come and speak in the white house that they will get something done. then i will start thinking about getting out. nothing until then. adam: some people say if we go over the cliff, it really is ... we still have a month or two for congress to fix things. >> if we go over the fiscal cliff, it will be bad. it will be really bad for the market. ultimately, it will make its way out. we are not solving this cli
eyebrows to let you know what points are very important to him. >> so let's go to photos of obama and boehner from the first and only face-to-face meeting on fiscal cliff talks since the election. start with boehner, raising his eyebrow, what does that tell you? >> he's got a critical eye. he's going, i'm watching you. and so his eyes go off to the side with that little critical eye. you see it lifting up on that left-hand corner. >> okay. let's switch gears here. there's a photo of mitt romney. this is the one i really wanted you to look at. mitt romney having lunch at the white house this week. bitter rivals now trying to make nice, at least for a photo op. what does this photo tell you -- how is president obama treating the man he just beat? >> well, let me share something with you. this was a painful picture to look at because you can see he's actually having an emotional reaction -- >> do we have the picture -- there it is. let's put the picture up. i'm sorry, susan, go ahead. >> his chin wrinkles up -- this is not the clip. we were talking about the boehner one we just had.
boehner and president obama, is that at all in the works? >> as far as we know, no. whether it's in the works, we could only hope, at this point we do not have any indication that it is scheduled right now. never mind the principles, we don't have any word that there has been communications between their staff at all. what's flying out of the public still appears to be flying out of private, which is not a lot. >> the members are going home for a nice long weekend. thanks very much for that. president obama isn't negotiating like we just heard. he's negotiating to raise the tax rates on the rich as a downpayment on a larger deal to come later as far as taxes are concerned and medicare is concerned. >> let's allow higher rates to go up for the top two percent, that includes all of you, yes. but not in anyway that's going to affect your spending, your lifestyles or the economy in any significant way. let's make sure that 98% of americans don't see a single dime in tax increases next year. 97% of small businesses don't see an increase in taxes next year. and by doing that alone, w
in the negotiations if there were negotiations. president obama and speaker john boehner actually talked to one another. it was on the telephone. it was not the face-to-face meeting the speaker says is necessary, but it was the first time that the two men have spoken in a week. for the latest on these stalled negotiations, we turn to fox news chief white house correspondent ed henry for the report. >> trying to lay blame for stalled budget talks on republicans, president obama today wratcheted up pressure on boehner. >> nobody wants this done more than me. >> for the first time, plan for massive spending cuts from going over the fiscal cliff warning business executives, the economy could take another hit if republicans decide to extend just to middle class tax cuts to avoid the cliff for now and come back next year with more leverage to tie spending cuts and medicare reform to another hike in the nation's debt ceiling. >> we're not going to play that game next year. if congress, in any way suggests they tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes, and take us to the brink of default again as part of
negotiations between the president and mr. boehner. obama says the top rate on household income above $250,000 should rise from 35% to 39.6%. boehner wants the rate to stay at 35% or even lower. but what about meeting in the middle? around 37%? listen carefully to the speaker when he was asked today whether that rate could be the answer to this impasse. >> there are a lot of things that are possible. to put the revenue the president seeks on the table. but none of it's going to be possible if the president insists on his position. insists on my way or the highway. >> you hear what he said? a lot of things are possible. that may not sound like much where you're from, but here in washington, it sounds suspiciously like code for we're making progress. more evidence boehner's democratic counterpart house minority leader nancy pelosi also seems to be softening her language as we head into the weekend. listen. >> what we want to do is protect the middle class. so it's not about the rate. it's about the money. >> so is 37 the magic number in this fiscal cliff debate? "outfront," two men who know
president obama and house speaker john boehner on just where talks to end the fiscal showdown stand. the president, for his part, took his case to the public and repeated his call for a tax hike on upper income americans but made little mention of cuts to entitlement spending. something the speaker said must be part of any final deal. joining the panel this week, wall street journal columnist and deputy editor dan, and ms. o'grady and washington columnist kim stossel. you are stuck in washington having to talk to all the sources. and you have been working them this week, i know. is the mood as sour as it sounds? >> it is by the end of this week and here's why. republicans came out right after the election and said to the president, you want revenue, here. you want revenue on the wealthy? we will give it to you. let's do this via limbing tax deductions for the wealthy. the president instead of taking that, running it, ceiling a deal, has been out campaigning for tax hikes. and to cap it off, sent treasury secretary tim geithner down to congress this week with this absolutely outrageo
president obama. but house speaker john boehner says it's not a series plan. >> i was flabbergasted. i looked at him and said you can't be serious. i just never seen anything like it. >> if they are going to force higher rates on virtually all americans because they are not allowing tax rates to go up rob 2% of americans that is something we will have to face. >>> attorneys for oscar grant's family -- grant was shot and killed by police officer johannes mehserle on new years day back in 2009 in two oakland civil rights attorneys will argue before the ninth circuit court of appeals in san francisco that bart police officers should not receive legal immunity. last year a federal judge ruled to let the suit go forward but the officers appealed that ruling to the ninth circuit court. >>> this is day seven of a strike by clerical workers. contract talks between the workers and shippers at the ports of los angeles and long beach have resumed. the walk out by the clerk has dramatically slowed activity at the ports. dock workers are refusing to cross the picket lines. >>> oak 4:36 now. much qu
and government spending consults on the middle class. >> creating jobs -- >> reporter: president obama and house speaker john boehner spoke on the phone wednesday but publicly are holding firm on their positions. the white house has made clear the country could go over the cliff if republicans refuse to raise taxes on the top 2% of american earners. >> to do that to 98% of the american people, because of an insistence that the wealthiest americans get a tax cut would be profoundly wrong. >> reporter: republican leaders say they will close loopholes and eliminate tax breaks but bush-era tax cuts must be extended to all americans. >> reporter: the standoff and debt concerns ryan. so much so, that he is the guy if the suit dancing gangnam style with former senator alan simpson. the group the can kicks back is working to get young people involved in fixing the debt crisis. >> we are trying to connect with our generation in a different way using humor to hook them in and get them to learn about this issue and understand how it affects their lives. >> reporter: the grassroots campaign wants to sign up
to the two main power brokers, president obama and house speaker john boehner. >> if the president doesn't agree with our proposal, he has an obligation to families and small businesses to offer a plan of his own. a plan that can pass both chambers of the congress. >> reporter: with the clock ticking toward the fiscal cliff deadline, government workers have joined the push but they want to make sure they're not cut out of the deal. >> federal employees that i represent have offered up $103 billion to the federal deficit. >> reporter: jd cox of the american federation of government employees say they can't afford anymore cuts and going over the fiscal cliff will impact millions of americans. >> there would be a lot of federal employees who would be furloughed or riffed and would lose their jobs. >> reporter: economists say the combination of automatic spending cuts and tax increases that will kick in january 1st if congress and the president don't reach an agreement could plunge the country back into recession. danielle nottingham, cbs news, washington. >> the house is scheduled to formal
.m. >>> republicans and democrats raided accusations over who is to blame for the fiscal cliff. john boehner and president obama and nancy pill low city blamed the republicans. >> we had a serious proposal based on president clinton's chief of staff. there is no counter offer from the white house. unstead, reports indicate that the president -- instead, the president has deliberately walked our economy right to the edge of fiscal cliff. >> he said democrats are slow walking the economy to the fiscal cliff, yet, this is the same republican leadership that has the house in session barely a day. barely a full day this week. >> the fiscal cliff is the term that is given to a set of spending cuts and tax increases that will take effect in january if congress does not act to stop them. >>> investigators are trying to determine what happened before a football fan fell or jumped from the third deck at the oakland coliseum. he fell to the concourse during last night's broncos, raiders game and taken to the hospital with serious injuries. they called it an accident and it remains under investigation.
parties are leaving the talks to president obama and house speaker john boehner. here on capital hill, boehner says he is still waiting for the white house to respond to the latest gop proposal. >> this isn't a progress report because there's no progress to report. >> republicans are offering to extend tax breaks for all americans, close tax loopholes and cut nearly $1.5 trillion in spending. >> i came out the day after the election to put revenues on the table to take a step toward the president to try to resolve this. when is he going to take a step toward us. >> jay david cox sees real conqueenses if the country goes over the cliff. >> -- consequences if the country goes over the cliff. >> there would be a lot of employees who would be furloughed or lose their job. >> speaker boehner says he will be staying in town this weekend ready to negotiate with the president. danielle nottingham, cbs news washington. >>> a car can't be registered at the dmv. turning buyers and sellers into big losers. >>> when it comes to early december weather, does it get any better than this? if you're a
. the latest we've learned, president obama and house speaker john boehner have spoken by phone. no word on what they discussed or whether there are any meetings planned, but just the fact that they're talking seems to be progress these days here on capitol hill. >> we'll take that. tracie potts for us in washington. tracie, thanks. >>> egypt state television is reporting at least five people were killed in overnight flashes between supporters and opponents of egyptian president mohammed morsi. the street battles were the most violent since egypt's latest crisis erupted two weeks ago where morsi assumed near absolute power. the opposition is vowing more protests later today. >>> this morning, two australian radio hosts are apologizing for a prank call that's getting worldwide attention. it was made to the hospital where kate is being treated for acute morning sick sentencesness. anna bell roberts is with us. >> reporter: good morning, lynn. that's right. the latest on kate's condition is that she will remain in hospital. we're not quite sure for how much longer, but she is said to be doi
planned. yesterday's negotiations cons t consisted of a phone call between president obama and house speaker john boehner. both are still sticking so their separate plans. the president raises taxes on the top 2% to raise 1.6 billion in revenue while the gop wants to close tax loopholes to raise half as much. >> there are ways to limit deductions, close loopholes and have the same people pay more of their money to the federal government without raising tax rates. >> we can probably solve this in about a week. it's not that tough. but we need that breakthrough that says we need to do a balanced plan. >> the white house says they are also concerned that republicans may use the debt ceiling, which will need to be raised early next year, to get their way on tax and spending cuts. the pentagon is also preparing to make cuts if no deal is reached. the preliminary plan is to cut $500 billion in programs. the pentagon spokesman says it could force them to abandon their new military strategy. it's also likely to affect spending and military weapons. >>> melissa with some breaking news. >> at
cliff notes. today president obama and house speaker john boehner spoke on the phone about the looming budget cuts, but as of now, no evidence there's any future negotiations scheduled. a new poll by the associated press shows 48% of those asked support letting tax cuts expire january 1st for those earning more than $250,000 a year, but extending them for everybody else. just 32% say the cuts ought to be extended across the board. joining us now to talk fiscal cliff and ramifications for all of us around here in the d.c. area, virginia congress member gerry connolly, a democrat representing annandale, parts of prince herndon county, fairfax, welcome, sir. we know the arguments by now, very familiar. the president wants to cut off the tax cuts for everybody making over a quarter million. john boehner and the house republicans would rather see deductions and hoop holes closed. why are you? are you with the president wholeheartedly on this? >> well, i certainly agree with the president that we need to let the top tax bracket expire. he ran explicitly on that. there weren't a lot of expli
for the first time in days -- president obama and house speaker john boehner. it is raising new hopes for new negotiation -- they have been at a standstill since monday when the gop proposed raising revenues by closing tax loopholes, not by raising tax rates on the top earners as the president had demanded. this comes as a new poll suggests americans agree with the president. 40% want to that tax cuts expire for the wealthy. 32 percent say they should continue for everyone. more downsizing -- news from citigroup. they announce they are cutting 11,000 jobs worldwide. they're closing branches. a spokesperson says less than 1% of 3600 citibank employees in maryland will be laid off. one branch in the state will close in the glen burnie. a new annapolis fire department is getting over $200,000 in a grant from fino. congressmen -- fema. congressman judge sought -- john sarbanes said it will go to upgrading the fire station. some say fema is not that generous when it comes to aid for victims of superstore sandy. >> maryland woke up to this headline -- u.s. denies aid to more storm victims. this is
county, news 4. >> president obama and house speaker john boehner talked by telephone today about the fiscal cliff. lawmakers have until december 31st to reach a deal to avoid dramatic tax heights and budget cuts. the president wants higher taxes on people making more than $250,000 a year. to make up $1.6 trillion in 10 years. republicans want to close loopholes, make half as much money and not raise taxes. >>> businessman greg hall files an appeal. neither should get the seat. the democratic central committee has nominated hall to replace alston. the judge ruled that governor omaley will pick the next one. >> a court battle between a home contractor and an unhappy customer. a judge in fairfax county has ordered a woman, the homeowner, to remove parts of her posts on yelp and on angie's list. jane perez is the homeowner. she complained about repairs. she also claimed that some of her jewelry disappeared while the contractor had the only other key to her home. the contractor is named christopher dietz. the judge says that the woman's po posts about her jewelry goes too far and she
're looking for help. >> susie: and house speaker boehner accuses president obama of wasting another week in the fiscal cliff negotiations. >> tom: that and more tonight on "n.b.r."! >> susie: the job market is proving to be surprisingly resilient. american employers hired 146,000 workers in november, much more than expected. and the unemployment rate fell to 7.7%, the lowest level since december of 2008. as erika miller reports, that wasn't the only surprise in today's report. >> reporter: almost no one on wall street saw this good news coming. there was every reason to think hiring would be weak last month. after all, many parts of the east coast are still recovering from devastation caused by superstorm sandy. >> i think the most likely explanation here is sandy's impact was significant but was so short-lived that it didn't extend to the sample period of the employment report which was the week that covered november 12. >> reporter: hiring was also supposed to be weak due to worries about the fiscal cliff. with $600 billion in automatic tax hikes and government spending cuts set to sta
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, president obama and john boehner. we have not seen movement today or this weekend. >> mike viqueira at the white house. thank you. >>> new today, leaders from both sides agreeing the best option is to avoid the fiscal cliff. they can't agree on which path to take to get there. >>> i don't think republicans or americans want to raise any taxes just to continue this spending in washington. they want a more efficient and more accountable. what we are saying is we need to do what ronald reagan did with tip o'neill, show the leadership to get in the room. same as bill clinton did with newt gingrich. get in the room and make the changes that are needed. >> the president wants to solve the problem. it's what he said in the campaign. it's what he's saying now. we cannot lurch from one crisis to the other. think of all the times tea party republicans and speaker boehner threatened to shut down the government over the debt ceiling. listen, if we are going to have this certainty for businesses to invest and know new jobs are being created we have to get this behind us. >> joining me now, dana
. >> perhaps the boehner/obama phone call late today has moved things along. >> there's lots of activity looking at opposites. what we don't have right now be on -- options. what we don't have right now obviously is a meeting of the minds. this will require a difficult compromise on all sides to get the job done. >> speaker boehner sent house members home today for the rest of the week keeping negotiators in case the meeting with the president calls for more movement. >> let's bring in fox 5 political analyst mark plotkin to talk a little bit more about this. mark, are both sides do you think making a valid tempt or is it looking more and more like we're -- attempt or is it looking more and more like we're going over the cliff? >> i have no way of knowing. i will say what was left out of bob's excellent report. he referred to this meeting with ceos of the business roundtable and said look, the debt ceiling has to be automatic. we can't go through that again separate it. has to be included in the plan and the republicans have no reason to go along with that. so in some way the president i
on tax hikes for the wealthy, this following president obama and speaker boehner's first phone
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the hour. president obama and house speaker boehner one-on-one in the fight over the fiscal cliff. we take the plunge in 25 days now. that means devastating tax hikes and spending cuts take hold at the start of the new year. congress breaks for the holidays in seven days. but democrats and republicans may be making headway. house speaker john boehner asked democratic leaders in the house and senate to get out of the way so he and the president can negotiate a deal alone. everyone seems to be on board. paul steinhauser is live in washington. nice to see you. new polls. what do americans want to see in a fiscal cliff deal? >> the polls are at these num, the big sticking points, should taxes be raised on those making over $250,000 a taxes would be raised if there's no deal to avert the fiscal cliff. yesterday as you said, the president was in northern virginia meeting with a middle class family who would suffer if there was no deal. last week the president went to suburban philadelphia, to a small business again to make the point of his side in these fiscal cliff negotiations. different than
2008. >>> our fourth story, showdown. house speaker john boehner today gave president obama a taste of his own medicine, putting out his own proposal for avoiding the fiscal cliff. i spoke with tom coburn this hour and he said the deal boehner's put on the table is the best compromise out there. listen. >> i'm certain that if this is not good enough for the white house, we will go over the fiscal cliff. >> if you read though, the boehner proposal carefully, no tax rate increases, which we know is a nonstarter for the president. so where does that leave us? john avlon is here to help us read through the lines of the deal, also crunch some of those numbers. first, we're talking about the $800 billion figure. that's in the letter that john boehner wrote to the president. break that down for us. >> that's right. there is no numbers breaking that down. it's a where's the beef question. bumper sticker, we have the numbers but no details. boehner's aides will say that's where the negotiations come in. the devil's in the details. they'll say look, to achieve these revenue increases by closi
. at that point i wouldn't be surprised if president obama, john boehner, and other key folks are actually locked up somewhere in maybe camp david, maybe at the white house. that's when the big talks will start. not now but in the next couple of weeks. >> back to the power move as it's described by speaker boehner. who are the strongest allies. we've seen paul ryan all but vanish here other than when we put the picture up on the committee and who is on it. who are the allies supporting speaker boehner that are team players? >> there was a criticism in the suspicion about a year ago that even some of john boehner's top deputies weren't always on board. that came about during the debt ceiling debate of 2011 where there was a lot of suspicion where eric cantor the house majority leader was on the same page with house speaker john boehner. right now as we see it seems like the republican leadership is completely unified, and that does end up bolstering john boehner's ability to make a deal or enforce discipline with the party. >> very interesting. thank you very much. governors who met with the presi
, that one day that you actually have president obama and boehner come out on the white house lawn saying they're announcing some kind of a deal, you're probably going to see a sharp rebound on the back end of it. you certainly don't want to miss out. >> jeff, what's the third thing you do? buy cans of tuna fish? >> no, i think you have to watch it. the one thing i would disagree with is i don't like dividend payers right now. i think this idea of rushing to these special dividends could come back to actually backfire on some of these companies if they're not putting their cash to good use. it's almost like they're trying to bar the door to keep investors from going out. i'm a little afraid there. i'm also afraid of munis here. on the back end of this, there's a good chance munis could lose their tax-exempt status. that could cause some problems. they've had great run here. i think they're very susceptible to talks coming from the fiscal cliff. >> i think if they took the tax-exempt status away, we'd all be in trouble. >> then what do you do? >> it's a horrible thing as far as local gover
the country needs. today we heard president obama's response to the proposal that house speaker john boehner put on the table yesterday. >> the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. >> of out of balance. kind of similar to what republicans said last week when the president sent over his terms. so now what? will they sit down and talk it through? well, not according to at least one senior republican aide who told cnn today, no conversations today, no e-mails, tweets, carrier pigeons. as for boehner and obama, they actually did see each other in person at the white house holiday party last night in black tie. while other lawmakers waited in line to get the photo with the president, multiple sources from both sides of the aisle tell cnn that boehner wasn't among them. so much for holiday cheer. we have this picture. we're wait fworg the day there's a fiscal cliff. there wasn't total silence in washington today. senate majority leader harry reid spoke up. but in his case, in the form of a swipe. >> i sympathyize with john boehner. the key party has a firm grip on the republican p
pigeons. as for boehner and obama, they actually did see each other in person at the white house holiday party last night in black tie. while other lawmakers waited in line to get the photo with the president, multiple sources from both sides of the aisle tell cnn that boehner wasn't among them. so much for holiday cheer. we have this picture. we're waiting for the day there's a fiscal cliff. there wasn't total silence in washington today. senate majority leader harry reid spoke up. but in his case, in the form of a swipe. >> i sympathize with john boehner. the key party has a firm grip on the republican party, and that's obvious, what's happened this morning here in washington. >> reporter: that disconnect in the gop was in the spotlight today. jim demint spoke out against boehner's proposal to the president. >> republicans should not be conceding that the federal government needs more money, negotiating with ourselves, and treating the president's proposal like it's serious. >> very critical of john boehner. and demint's press release aimed squarely at john boehner. $800 billion tax hi
about solving this problem. >> but of course, it takes two to tango, so where does president obama stand? >> we can probably solve this in about a week. it's not that tough. >> it's not that tough. he's absolutely right about that. but we heard early this evening that the president and speaker boehner did speak late today on the phone, so that's good news, but in this case, they need face time. they need to spend real time face to face. even democrats think the president needs to do more in person work on this. >> the president is not somebody who he's prioritizing evenings with his family instead of going down and having a bourbon on the rocks with some of the congressional folks. >> sometimes though, you need to do to bourbon like when the country needs you. bourbon, beer, wine, whatever, after a couple of drinks, the president and boehner could you know, pull a simpson. >> the lasso again, then the horse. the cowboys ride. the cowboys. >> that's the special beer that you would drink to get you to dance the gangnam style. president obama and john boehner did the gangnam style, your app
drink to get you to dance the gangnam style. president obama and john boehner did the gangnam style, your approval ratings might go up. "outfront" tonight, tom mcclintock of the budget committee. thank you for taking the time. we just showed a lot of your colleagues going home on a wednesday night after working a three-day week. obviously, that's an image that frustrates so many americans. why are people going home before getting this done? >> well, unfortunately, we're not using the standard process where the house passes its version, the is that the passes its version, then a conference committee is very good in revolving impasses like this between the two houses. unfortunately, none of that's being used and i think that's one of the reasons why these things are blocking down now so regularly. we've abandoned a process that works very well when we use it. >> john boehner presented a plan to the president and in that plan, he put $800 billion in revenue from the wealthy on the table. he said he would close loopholes and those people would pay more money. you were a member of the te
, president obama spoke with john boehner and eric cantor says the gop is ready to, quote, talk specific. if an agreement is not reached, defense employees will take a hard hit. almost half of the automatic cuts that would take effect will impact the department of defense and civilian employees are expected to be first to feel it. >>> new this morning, the duchess of cambridge is out of hospital and as we see in this video, just in to the newsroom, she and prince william were seen leaving about 0 minutes ago to head to kensington palace. the couple is expecting their first child and kate had been hospitalized for severe morning sickness. her stay in the hospital was uneventful except for a prank call by a pair of australian dj is pretrending to be the queen and prince charles. >>> same-sex couples in washington state line up to say i do and the state rolls out a controversial new law that legalizes smoking pot in private. >> a software giant arrested. john mcafee is at the center of an investigation into his neighbor's murder. that is not why he was taken into custody. we'll explain when
with the very latest. jessica? >> reporter: president obama has now personally turned down speaker boehner's opening offer to avert the fiscal cliff. he did it in a tv interview. what does president obama think of speaker boehner's proposal to avert the fiscal cliff? >> unfortunately, the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. he talks about $800 billion worth of revenues but says he's going to do that by lowering rates. when you look at the math, it doesn't work. >> reporter: he won't agree to eliminate a tax deduction for contributions to charity. >> every hospital and university and nonfor profit agency across the country would find themselves on the verge of collapse. so that's not a realistic option. >> reporter: but the president didn't say all this to speaker boehner. he said it in an interview on bloomberg tv. the last time the two men spoke was almost a week ago. president obama is focused on the stalemate with congress over averting the fiscal cliff, but he's just not talking to house republicans about it. at the white house, he discussed the issue with a bipartisa
that is scheduled to start any hour now. >>> also, we could hear president obama's response to speaker boehner's offer. he is is publicly pushing his plan to raise taxes on the wealthiest of americans. we'll bring that to you 50 minutes from now. >>> lawmakers are listening to responses of superstorm sandy. they are going to demand more funds for the cleanup. this is the third of four hearings scheduled. >>> and in houston, a history making mission to the international space station. scott kelly, the american astronaut, will speak about his next launch. if all goes as planned, it will set the longest record for a space mission for an american. we'll see what he's saying. "newsroom" starts right now. >>> good morning. thank you so much for being with us. i'm carol costello. this should be interesting. speaker john boehner is meeting with house republicans who are angry at his new pitch to raise 8$800 million in fiscal cliff negotiations. we're expecting a news conference any minute now on that meeting. we'll bring it to you live. nancy pelosi spoke about it a few hours ago. here's what she had
with ourselves. >> house speaker boehner saying that is president obama and the democrats to save you for being higher taxes. this fiscal cliff thing, the problem with the republicans, larry, is that they have been boxed in by the democrats into a difficult position where the polls confirm that the public in america believe that the reason that president obama is going to win the debate is because, come the fiscal cliff moment, that if he goes over, that they are going to save the backsides of the wealthy 2% of americans. i probably shouldn't but i do. >> speaking as a reagan conservative, i must say i rather agree with you. probably shouldn't. but i do. i think divided government is very difficult. and there's some principles that speaker boehner is fighting for, with which i actually agree. but i think politically, the risk here for the gop, is they've become the party of rich people. and they give up the middle-class to the democrats. and i think you saw some of that in the presidential election. i don't think that's their intent. i think their tax reform intent is quite sound. but the way t
or the rich. president obama is making it clear to john boehner who aappears to be anyway public denial to try to stall time to prevent that from happening. >> is that the goal whether he comes out and has press conferences like that, is he posturing? what is he doing, if the end has already been decided. >> i don't know if it's been decided, but there's inevitablity here. the way it works is this is not an even fight where the republicans and democrats start in a certain way. if nothing happens, taxes go up at the new year, and that's a problem for republicans. it's a better hand for democrats. the alternatives is taxes go up for everyone or the top 2%. that's an inevitable reality. i think john boehner has a lot of completing political interest here. he has to worry about a very difficult caucus. we have people on the very right who aren't ready to raise taxes on the rich. there's a moment of reckoning sooner or later. >> the other part is entitlement reform. we've heard some details about what they might be considering, you know, means testing, changing the means testing, raising the age of
negotiations rewind to 2011 when boehner and president obama came within inches of a grand bargain, a deal that would have forced both democrats and republicans to eat their vegetables. in its comprehensive analysis of what happens during the secret negotiations, matt bai wrote -- the deal unraveled in large part because speaker boehner could not get his unruly caucus to go along with raising new revenue. fast forward to this year and republicans now think that deal, the one they walked away from, sounds pretty good. they're using it as a basis for their current proposal. only problem. boehner had his chance. president obama now thinks he has the upper hand. according to the "washington post's" ezra klein, quote -- >> joining us now representative chris van hollen of maryland, ranking member of the house budget committee. great to have you on the program. >> great to be with you, alex. >> let's talk a little bit about 2011 versus 2012, which is to say, the republican party is a very different negotiating position than they were last year and as ezra outlines, it sounds like john boehner wo
as we get closer to the new yearhen tax is actuay go up. john boehner knows this and obama knows this so we will not see the conontotours of a deal yet. but that does not mean that the absence of evidence is the evidence of absence. 9 >> i noticed thahat while being out for r a week with the the flu is that nothing changein t wes i was gone.e. nothing has changed in months. it is aithetical washington does. they don't get a any kind of acaction until the last possible minute and the binesss community y hates that. theyey want t to seeee some kind of stability or predictality. wawall street needs to figure out how damaging this is to play this game. >> washington will interpret wall street as washington sees fit. wall street can say whatever it wants and can send the market into a tailspin. there will be a rponse from a repupublican or democr that will paint that tailspin in their favor. it is not just about the numbers.s. it i not in n it -- is about more than $500 billion in tax cuts. it'ss about a veryragilele psychology for this country. we see constandysfunction. alan kruer a has sai
: that number has not moved. people are saying obama is reasonable boehner and the republicans unreasonable. easy got to make a deal in that sense, too. they're going to do the grand bargain. both sides are really, really motivated. both sides are super motivated. now really good piece of news about elizabeth warren. >> she was named to the bank committee. two senators retiring in january announced they're retirements. they were on the bank committee. the bank spent a lot of money to see her not get elected spent a lot of lobbying power to see her not named the the committee. remember, $3 million were given to scott brown by bankers in that campaign, $245,000 only to warren. >> they knocked her out of the consumer protection bureau, which was her idea. she just wants safe banking. she doesn't want banking she wants safer banking so your money is safe and they don't gamble with it. that's why the banks hate it. >> it's why smaller banks are not opposed to warren. >> that's a great point. i love that they put mention in there, hey banks we have to put elizabeth warren, but don't worry, we're
. aides to president obama and speaker boehner met yesterday afternoon, but that meeting ended with no signs of progress. stay with abc7 morning news, 6:30 the opening bell live from the new york stock exchange. 6:45 live to jane king for an update. >>> in a few hours pearl harbor survivors as well as military and coast guard veterans will place a wreath in alameda to mark the 71st anniversary of the japanese attack on the pearl harbor base in hawaii. it will be followed by a 20 within gun salute. more than 2400 americans died when the japanese bombed pearl harbor in a surprise attack december 7th, 1941. the attack helped usher the u.s. into world war ii. 3:45 in afternoon sons and daughters of survivors will attend the 48th annual beacon lighting in honor of pearl harbor day. >>> the iphone is likely coming to t-mobile in the new year, the company says it will add apple products in 2013 the company didn't mention the iphone by name and misses say it is likely the -- >>> san francisco-based site zynga wants a real money gambling experience for users. the company has filed an ap
boehner will speak at any moment. his first public remarks since president obama drew a line in the sand insisting on raising tax rates on the rich. no deal without that. we hear from mr. boehner short lil' -- shortly. when he starts to speak, you will hear it live. also new at 10:00, an 8 minute cartoon video from a teacher's union in california that shows among other things a rich man urinating on the poor and the middle class. this is what the class warfare rhetoric has evolved into the formerly golden state. yep, believe me, we will have more on that later this hour with california resident mike reagan. >>> to the big board, we're right at 13,000, a gain of 51 points in the early going this wednesday morning. here's our company, charles payne is here. sandra smith is back. and nicole petallides on the floor of the new york stock exchange. and mark stein, conservative columnist supreme, author and christmas carol singer joins us as well. welcome to the program. president obama says i'm going to insist on raising tax rates on the rich. it is my opinion that the president wants to punis
. enough about it and that's not influencing what's go on between john boehner, president obama, mitch mcconnell and the other folk on the hill? >> they probably have more awareness than some can imagine. but having said that, it not where it is now, it's when you get to the end when people saw what the options were and the choices were, and then they decide who they think either helped or didn't help. that's sort of the critical moment. at this point, i -- the public wanted to see this resolved is where they're at the this point. >> right. and i always say, polling at this point given how little people know about the specifics of what could go into any deal, we don't have a deal, but if we did, may not be worth all that much. go ahead. >> again, one last thing. that's what's being negotiated at this point what are the specifics that go into it so people can pass judgment on it. >> i want to go to you, we've all been through this before, i feel like this is here we go again. >> here we go again. oh yes. >> all over. >> all over again. >> it feels, to me, the optics -- i hate to use that w
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